What Record Are You Listening To Today?

(Mark Turner) #101

I had not heard the Bill Evans recordings. They were quite nice as well! Would be very cool if you could cover this tune in a lesson at some point.

On another note (no pun intended), I did a little digging around and found some pretty exciting software that I had not seen before. It’s called AnthemScore. It generates sheetmusic from an audio file. I downloaded the free trial and tried it on the first 30 seconds of both the 7notemode and Bill Evans solo recordings of Porgy. It actually worked very well! Going to play around with it some more, but it looks very promising.

(Hayden Hill) #102

Yes we will definitely cover that tune.

The AnthemScore software looks very interesting Mark… I wasn’t aware that it was possible to convert an audio file into notation.

Please send over one of the output files, or perhaps upload to this thread… I’d be very interested to see the result.

I noticed that the output is in music XML format too, I actually pull these files into Sibelius to make the transcriptions. Ian, one of our students creates the XML file for me using a midi file i send him. I find it fascinating where modern computer technology meets music production and notation… Interesting stuff!

(Mark Turner) #103

Well I have good news and bad news. The good news is, the AnthemScore software seems to work very well at correctly identifying and printing the notes. That alone will save an enormous amount of time and effort when transcribing an audio file. The bad news is, the sheet music is pretty unconventional and not something you would want to sight read or publish. I’m attaching the PDF files from the 7notemode recording of “I Loves You Porgy” and your performance of “Misty” in the opening of the “Misty” standard tutorial. The forum system wouldn’t let me upload the XML files. I can email them to you if you’d like.

Misty Jazz Piano Tutorial Lesson PianoGroove.pdf (36.5 KB)
I Loves You Porgy - modal version – jazz piano solo.pdf (188.2 KB)

(Hayden Hill) #104

Mark thanks for sharing these.

To be honest I think that output is pretty good.

Even when converting .midi to notation, the notes are rarely aligned with the bar lines and it always takes considerable adjustment. The left hand is particularly troublesome because notes are held down and then additional ‘voices’ added in the middle of the chord.

For all transcriptions, Ian - one of our Australian students - creates something similar from a midi file, then he aligns the chords up accurately so that the chords are placed in the correct bars. He then passes the XML file over to me and i run it through Sibelius to add the internal voices, ensure the rhythms are correct and generally try to notate the arrangement as accurately as possible.

Ian and myself will definitely be using this AnthemScore software moving forwards. Thanks very much for sharing it!!

ps. I have enabled .xml format uploads so that should work fine now. I think it’s important that we can share every type of file extension on here.


Great technology !
That will be really a great help !

I’m amazed by all this wonderfull technology (notation, computer sounds…)

))) Now, I’m just waiting for an hospital to get genetic improvement an neuronal transplantation to get a little talent)))))

(Hayden Hill) #106

This isn’t jazz, but I love the way it captures the flavour of a jam night with the different instruments coming in and out of the jam.

This genre is called TripHop - it’s kind of like a HipHop beat but with instrumentals instead of rapping.

I like it when the sax comes in at 3:15s

(Hayden Hill) #107

The next jazz standard tutorial will be on ‘Cry Me a River’ … one of the great ballads!

(Bernhard) #108

…the reason why I joined pianogroove…wann play this song

(Hayden Hill) #109

Thanks for sharing Bernhard… a great performance!

‘Stiller Beobachter’ is the name of the song? I’m guessing it’s a German song by the name?

The first step would be to find a lead sheet or a score containing the melody and the chord changes. I just checked and it doesn’t appear to be in the jazz fake books. Let me know if you can find one.

(Hayden Hill) #110

One of my favourite tunes…

Stan Getz:

Chet Baker Vocal:

(Hayden Hill) #111

An amazing performance of “Satin Doll” from Michel Petrucciani.

I like his single melody note line that he introduces at 2:40 and then at 3:35 he encourage the audience to click on beats 2 & 4 - then they slowly start to join in and he continues his swinging bluesy melody line. Listen close and you can hear the major blues scale.

We’ll be covering this tune in the next few weeks… be sure to share your favourite version of this tune if you have one.

(Mark Turner) #112

I like this McCoy Tyner recording. Is he using block chords? I love that sound. Good solo lines too.

(Hayden Hill) #113

Awesome record Mark… all of McCoy’s 'Nights of Ballads & Blues’ is a brilliant album to study block chords.

Yes to answer your question he is using different types of block chords.

You can hear the ‘Red Garland’ voicing throughout - this is a rootless left hand voicing in the left hand and then he voices the melody in octaves in the right hand, usually an additional voice in between the octave too, try 4ths, 5ths or 6ths up from the bottom note.

Check out this lesson on how to construct the voicing: https://www.pianogroove.com/jazz-piano-lessons/red-garland-voicing-block-chord-tutorial/ - a great voicing to learn… it really packs a punch and I use it all of the the tune in my solos.

He also uses the 4 way close in places. Most of the recording, he is playing the right hand in rhythmic unison with the left hand - in a locked hands style.

Another section I like:

At 3:00 onwards - he plays a phrase and then repeats it at a higher pitch. This works particularly well because the harmony moves up by a whole step - D-7/G7 to E-7/A7. This technique is a great way to ‘build a narrative’ in your improv.

He then plays some blues material and does a wonderful 16th note run up and down the keyboard.

There is a wealth of material that could be transcribed here. From long improvised lines, to short little fills here and there. And of course the rhythms he uses in his comping and to support his improvisation.

Unfortunately, there is no other way to absorb rhythm and this kind of feel. You must listen and emulate the jazz greats!

Try the following Mark:

  1. Learn the form with left hand voicings (not very difficult)

  2. Play along with the iRealPro App, set the metronome to 120 bmp, go into the ‘mixer’ settings… turn off the piano, change the drums to ‘click on 2 & 4’ and then also up the repeats to 20.

  1. The chords are on the screen but you can also use a lead sheet if you wish.

  2. Cycle around just playing left hand voicngs until you are very comfortable with the form. Just place the left hand voicings on beat 1 to begin with. Then mix it up, play on multiple beats etc…

  3. After perhaps a few days of doing this, then play it underneath McCoy’s recording… this will give you a very unique perspective on how he is phrasing, where he places the chords and where he adds fills.

  4. Transcribe using your ears. You should be able to hear when he uses the distinctive Red Garland-esque voicings… for this, just continue to play the left hand voicings that you have been playing, but try to work out the octave he is playing above… and most importantly copy his rhythms, phrasing and articulation.

I’ve done some rough planning for the jazz standard tutorial on this tune and we will look in detail at:

Thanks for sharing Mark… I think it’s great for all students to have input into the jazz standard tutorials if they wish to, so that if there is a particular sound you want to learn about (like McCoy’s) we can then study and apply it in the lesson.

(Mark Turner) #114

Cool, I’ll definitely check out the rest of that album.

And thank you very much for all of the information and practice tips. Having your comments and suggestions is extremely valuable and and very much appreciated.

Also, thank you for being open to input from members. I think it helps keep folks engaged. As for me, I couldn’t be happier with how things are going. Pianogroove is absolutely the best source for anyone who is serious about learning jazz piano, and I’m very glad to be a member. Thank you for all your efforts in putting it together and all the hard work you put into all the lessons.

Now I just need to find out how to clone myself because there seriously just aren’t enough hours in the day! :slight_smile:

(Hayden Hill) #115

Yes do check it out Mark… I like his Round Midnight interpretation on that album:

Don’t be intimidated by the super-human runs up and down the keyboard :smile:

He plays once through solo piano, and then his trio join him at 1:50 - a lovely transition.

Again lots of block chords, this one tiny bit of his improvisation always amazes me (from 3:53 - 3:57) … such command and control over the rhythm!!

The whole improv is worth studying… some really great swinging lines in there too.

Thanks for the kind words Mark, I’m also happy with how the site has come together and lots of students tell me the improvements they are seeing which is really great to hear.

Encouraging this kind of sharing and discussion around the music itself is exactly where i wanted to take things and I’m positive it will improve everyones musicality.

The one mistake I see more than anything else is students trying to play and improvise jazz when they haven’t really done much listening themselves.

Sure, you can copy a chord voicings from a video tutorial, but to really feel the rhythm and direction of a solo, you need to put in the hours listening, studying and transcribing… I wish I realised this sooner!!!

haha If you figure that out I’m also interested!

(John Conforti) #116

Hi everyone. I’m new to the forum so please excuse any technical difficulties. I am at work and enjoying in your own sweet way and came across this version with Kenny Barron Hope you all enjoy.

(Hayden Hill) #117

Great record John… thanks for sharing.

“In Your Own Sweet Way” is my favourite composition by Dave Brubeck.

I really like the Bill Evans recordings of this tune, he really captures the bouncy and playful vibe. Here’s both his solo piano and trio recordings:

Trio Recording:

Solo Piano Recording:

It’s quite a tricky tune to play with some challenging harmony and quite an acrobatic melody in places but we will certainly cover it in the future.

Cheers :slight_smile:

(Mark Turner) #119

Pure Imagination - what a wonderful song - and a nice performance by this guy at his recital…

(Hayden Hill) #120

Wow, some beautiful voicings in his ballad sections… my kind of jazz! :smile:

I like how he changes to a swing feel ~2:05 for his improvised section, and then drops back into the straight ballad feel ~4:00 to finish the tune.

We should explore something like this for a future lesson… how to transition between feels.

Thanks for sharing Mark.

(Hayden Hill) #121

I shared this on PianoGroove Facebook a week or so ago, I’ve been really enjoying listening to it.

I’ve transcribed the 1st 32 bars of the Arturo’s trumpet solo… and made it into a lesson/study which will be finished shortly.

Zane and Mahesh’s solos are also awesome… I’ll be studying/transcribing them too when i get the time.

A really great performance of one of my favourite tunes!